Hello, this is an old thread so I have no clue if any of you will respond, however I’m back tracking my grand mother Ruth Elizabeth Worthington’s family heritage. Apparently we have Native American in our blood thanks to a possibly a descendant of Virginia, a general as my dad heard. But now most of all the Worthington relatives are dead from the side of the Native American blood. I’m not sure if any of you guys know anything about it but email me email@example.com you have a clue, thanks.
I posted Where do I Start? and thought I would follow up on that post.
Actually, the report really helped. I stayed focused on that list and did an online search at Ancestry.com. I worked on the first 16 people on my list (males), and actually found 4 records in an Anglican Parish. So, my early guesses were close.
Of interest, one of the results gave me conflicting information. Below is the image in question.
Anglican Parish Registers (Lancashire, England), Lancashire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials (1573-1812), Burial Record for Edward Worthington, buried 08 May 1629, image 259, accessed 25 Apr 2013; digital images, Ancestry.com.
The conflict is that there are two people, in the Pedigree Chart, Edward Worthington, and the chart said that they died “1629”. So, which Edward Worthington is this record for?
I am guessing that solely looking at Church Records may present miss leading information. Without any indication of relationships or other information, may lead us to incorrect conclusions.
What I did was to enter the SAME record to both people, with a citation, but marked a To Do List task, to resolve this conflict. I also send an email to the project coordinator for additional help, as they have information that I do not have.
Bottom line here, the GenDective report has been very helpful.
Continuing my research for this “ancient” family line, where should I start to look?
The first record that I found was a marriage record in an Anglican Parish in Manchester, Lancashire, England. The Record group covered 1573-1812. Perhaps there are other records that I might find there, since the collection was for Baptism, Marriage, and Burial’s from that parish.
Back to GenDective™. In GenDective Reporter, there is a listing for “Which reports help with my research efforts?” That sounds like what I am looking for.
Clicking on the “+” sign, I see a report that might be helpful. Families who lived in state.
I selected ALL “Degree of family kinship”, Country is England, and State, territory or region, I selected Lancashire and clicked on Generate Report.
This generated a report of 30 people who had an event in Lancashire. Looking at the report, which included Dates, I might find any one or all of them in that area of England.
So far, with that first “hint” there have been not helpful hints. Because I have so few dates, the hints are not “my person”. So back to Ancestry.com AND FamilySearch.org, as they have Church Records from that area in that time frame. But, at least I can focus on this group of people (30).
From a hint, on Ancestry.com, I found a marriage record for George Worthington and Elizabeth Sandiford and their marriage of 11 jun 1663 in Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George, Lancashire England. All I started with was that George had died between 1669 and 1670. Elizabeth (Sandiford) Worthington was still living in 1669 and that they had been married about 1663. That hint took me to the IMAGE of that record.
Here they are on 11 June 1663
Never thought I would see these documents from England. Thank you Ancestry.com
Ancestry.com, Manchester, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1573-1812 (Cathedral) (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013), http://www.ancestry.com, Database online.
More on this project later.
I did a series of blog posts on the use of WikiTree to gather information from the “facebook” generation.
My goal was to gather family information about some nieces and nephews that I had lost contact with, so that I could generate a book and/or chart for my Aunt, my Dads younger sister.
What I had noticed, is that these nieces and nephews and their children were “online” on Facebook. So, how to gather their information for me to add to my genealogy database. Online … hmmmm … Oh yeah, there is WikiTree. http://www.wikitree.com/
I provided instructions to the upper right of my blog, on how I wanted “them” to use WikiTree, because I want that tree to be completely private as I was gathering information on living people, including a couple of babies.
Well, it worked. I had great help from a couple of cousins to pull this together and hope that I can get a couple of other cousins to help me fill out their “lines”.
I sent my data along to Family Chartmasters and my friend “the Chart Chick” Janet Hovorka, and the Family Chartmasters generated a beautiful Descendant Chart that I gave to my aunt. Now, when her great-grandchildren come to visit her, they can see that chart, find their name then listen to my Aunt tell her stories. And she has a bunch of great stories.
Item for my ToDo list: Take my digital recorder with me the next time I go to visit.
Here is that chart:
I’ve traced my Worthington line to Charles Worthington, born August 2nd 1820 in Pennsylvania, but I can’t find his parents! He was married to Caroline Dimm, and the two lived in Wolf, Lycoming, PA, before moving to Kansas. Any help with his parents would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
OK, it’s time to get a discussion going on who are Captain John Worthington’s (1650-1701) parents.
This past week, I had a chance to spend some time in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. The trip to Salt Lake City was planned, but the visit to the FHL was not. Since “I was in the area” with 6,700 other family researchers, I thought I would see if I could find a passenger list or something to give me some more details on Capt. John.
I found it !!! Happy dancing going on in the 2nd basement.
Worthington, Capt. John (1650-1701: son of John, of Jesus Coll., Cambridge, Eng.): came to America with his brother, Samuel; was in Md., 1670; capt. Anne Arundel Co. militia; burgess; judge Provincial Ct.; mem. Quorum; m Sarah. dau of Matthew Howard1
Now, I have heard that this is an unreliable source, but I wanted to see if there were any hints here for other sources. I have, in my files, the “brother Samuel” but loose him in Somerset County, Maryland. But, what about this Jesus College. The problem here is that I have records that show that Frances Worthington as the father of Capt. John and he was from Manchester, Lancashire, England. This is showing John, of Cambridge.
I found a book on the History of Jesus College. Sure enough, there is a Mr. John Worthington, later listed as Dr. John Worthington about 1648, which looked promising. Since this book was about the history of the college I didn’t expect to find too much genealogical information there.
In that book, A History of Jesus College Cambridge, by Arthur Gray, M.A., Mast of the College 1912-1940; and Frederick Brittain, LITT.D. Fellow of the College; Heinemann, London Milborne Toronto, it associated a term, for John, as “a Fellow of Emmanuel”.
Back to search in the FHC Catalogue, I found another to John Worthington in Alumni Cantabrigienses. It was located where the History of Jesus College was, so I picked it up. Sure enough there was John Worthington. Not one but 4 John Worthington’s. The first of the John’s refers to “Fellow of Emmanuel, 1642”. Happy dance continues.
BUT, later in the paragraph it says “Brother of Samuel (1644) and father of John Worthington (1680-1).” Oops, the dates don’t work for me. It also says that John married Mary, dau. of Christopher Whichote, Oct. 13, 1657. The dates still don’t work for my Capt. John.
Going back though my file, I do see a reference to Christopher Whichote and Mary but not a good connection. I went back to the History of Jesus College and there was mention on page 87, speaking of John, “His only son, John, was admitted a pensioner of the College in 1680.”
End of the Happy Dance.
So, I am back to Frances (1624-1668) and Sarah Byrom (1624-1664) married 1648 as Capt. John’s parents. So I am back to The Cathedral in Manchester, Lancashire, England. The couple of a Samuel, born about 1648 and John about 1650. But Samuel is listed as the 3rd child. So, the dates still don’t work for me.
I thought I had broken my “across the pond” problem, while I was in Salt Lake City, but after reviewing the data, I am back asking the question, Who are Captain John Worthington’s parents.
1Frederick Adams Virkus, Immigrant Ancestors: A List of 2,500 Immigrants to America before 1750 (1942; Reprinted, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1976); Page 75; Worthington, Capt. John; Family History Library, 35 North West Temple Street
Salt Lake City, Utah.