We’re Related–Update 30 Nov 2016

November 30, 2016

This is still a work in progress and will continue to work this as a project. Lots of leads to follow up on in my Master genealogy file.

One of the readers of this blog, wanted to know what all of the information was about in the status reports I have given so far.

See if this will help:


Most of the information comes directly from the program, as I have developed the information I wanted to track.


The 1,007 Tasks (To / Do) lists have categories where I can get some other information so that I can report it.

Here is where the file is now.


All Facts have been documented, as there is an Undocumented Report that I have available. All people have a Research Log, another report, almost 60 pages of research logs.

I am now in the process of Documenting the APP data against other records.


I have blogged about this recently, but of the 55 We’re Related Cousins, I have DISPROVEN 2. That means that I have NOT Proven the other 53. Still working on that. But I have disproven 2.

The observation on those two were where the Common Ancestor was Female and the two “children” of that Common Ancestor had different surnames, as if that common ancestor had married twice. In both cases, I have found indication / evidence that they were two different people.

This is NOT a linage study, it is only study of the APP.

Lesson Learned to date:

  • Good Review of your current database
  • Many hints for future research

We’re Related–The APP was correct

November 29, 2016

I did a blog post earlier We’re Related–Case of Sarah Howard earlier, but after thinking about it, something wasn’t right.

Again, I went into my Genealogy Tool Box and pulled out EXCEL again. This time to put together a Timeline of events that would cover Sarah Howard and Sarah Dorsey. I wanted to see if the truth or a different story would show up and would the timeline make some sense.


This is my line so I reviewed my existing database. Bottom line is that the APP was giving me correct information and that I had the Birth Date for Sarah Howard incorrect. I had it as 1650, to be close to her husband. I reviewed that conflicting information and have determined that 1668 is the correct birth date.

In the previous blog post, I had miss read the Find A Grave text, for the birth and marriage date. I read both as the same year, instead of different years. The review of the Timeline now makes sense AND the APP showed me the error of my way. Oh I have the documentation, just had evaluated it incorrectly, years ago.

Lesson Learned: Review your data carefully. The Hint may come from the APP.

We’re Related–Disproven Line

November 29, 2016

As I have worked on this project, I, for what ever reason, made “gut feeling” notes as I went.

From my spreadsheet:


My existing database had Nathaniel Allen; born about 1798, death date unknown. But entering the date into the spreadsheet, I Hilited the entry above his, Jonathan Thorndike. In my Todo list I noted where did Thorndike become Allen.

One of the resource that I have been using for this project is the Find A Grave search results and Hints from Ancestry.com.

In another We’re Related cousin, had Nathaniel Allen’s wife of Ruth Herrick.

Another We’re Related cousin had Jonathan Thorndike’s wife as Lois Morgan. So, I have 3 cousin’s lining up here but with conflicting information.

The answer to the Conflicting information was on the Find A Grave website;


Lois Morgan, was not the wife of Jonathan Thorndike, but the wife of Jonathan ALLEN. Jonathan and the birth and death year are the SAME, the Surname is different.

The other records in the cousin connection is pretty solid, but this one struck me pretty quickly, as I was transcribing the information from the APP to the point where I hilited it.

My current thinking is that this is a Disproven Line.

We’re Related–John Kerry

November 29, 2016

One of the things I have been doing with this project, is to look on Wikipedia about my more widely known cousins.

One of my 7th Cousins, 1x Removed is our 68th Secretary of State, John Forbes Kerry. We actually are weeks apart in age.

BUT, that is not the important piece of information that caught my eye.


Kerry enlisted in the Naval Reserve in 1966, and between 1968 and 1969, he served an abbreviated four-month tour of duty in South Vietnam as officer-in-charge (OIC) of a Swift Boat. For that service, he was awarded combat medals that include the Silver Star Medal, Bronze Star Medal, and three Purple Heart Medals.


Sometimes, a picture says more than the story


That smaller boat is one SWIFT BOAT, like the one that Mr Kerry was one. This was a year earlier (1967), and I took this picture from another Swift Boat. Some of us, from the USCGC Halfmoon (the rusty one in the background, we honored to be able to spend a day or two “on the river” on one of these Swift Boats.

I do remember that night, as we were running up and down the river, doing what ever we were supposed to be down, when there were Helicopter dropping what looked like “walls of fire”, down on the enemy. I guess it’s one of those images that you never forget.

I guess I don’t remember hearing about all of his medals, including 3 Purple Hearts. But when in comes to politics, I stop listening.

This is one line that I am going to prove, to myself at least, as he comes from my maternal grandmother’s line, from New England.

Looking at my database, I have disproven another connection to Mr Kerry, with one of my Facebook / Genealogy friends.

I am honored to be related to John Forbes Kerry.

We’re Related–Case of Sarah Howard

November 27, 2016

I had to stop and figure out what was wrong with my 6th Great Grandmothers information from the We’re Related APP. Something just want right.

From my EXCEL spread sheet I had recorded


I knew that date wasn’t right. I knew that date to be about 1650, with information about her first husband, Captain John Worthington (1650 – 1701) was being evaluated. I looked at the APP to make sure that I hadn’t transposed 1651 and 1668, which still didn’t make sense.

Where did that 1668 date come from?

I look at my Ancestry Member Tree (AMT) to see if there was a hint there.


And there was my 1650 entry, BUT also an Alternate Birth Date of 1668. So, maybe the APP picked up the ALT Birth Date.

I then looked at the Source of the 1668 Entry to see were I got that information from.


Citation Information
P Fazzini created memorial on the Find-A-Grave website – 11/12/2010
Sarah Howard Worthington (1668 – 1726) – Find-A-Grave Memorial # 61494565

The Find A Grave website has the Birth year of 1668, but has that Sarah married Capt John in 1668.

It would appear that the APP picked up the Find A Grave website information for Sarah Howard’s birth year.

The entry for Sarah Dorsey (Sarah Howard’s mother), in my database did not have a birth year.

Looking at the surrounding family information, I need to go back and do some research.

This may also be a matter of two “Sarah” females living in the same area at the same time. The question for the We’re Related cousin was similar, as on the surface, it appears that the 2nd Sarah Dorsey was married twice.

Sarah Dorsey (1651 – 1692), according to the APP, married a Howard and married a Greenberry. Both are possible, as those names were in the same area.

Bottom line here: It’s worth looking at the information in the APP and Evaluate it against my own research.

We’re Related–Two Abigail Gale’s

November 25, 2016

In reviewing one of the Common Ancestors, I think that I have found that there were Two Abigail Gale (1662 – 1769).


So, I have two lines with the common Ancestor of Abigail Gale (1682 – 1769)

Based on the children’s names, it Jonas Jackson and Lydia Hooper, that Abigail may have married twice. That is what got my attention to look into this further.

Did she marry twice ?

The children birth dates didn’t help, Jonas Jackson about 1721, and Lydia Hooper about 1716. On the surface, they could be siblings.

Looking for Jonas, I found him on the Find A Grave website:

Find-A-Grave — Jonas Jackson, Sr

This clearly has the relationships, but Abigale Gale Jackson’s birth was in 1698 and died in 1769. Italic “Gale” in a birth Surname. The DEATH Date is the Same as from the We’re Related APP, birth date is different.

Further down this line, is Moses Jackson, as the Son of Jonas.

Looking at the Find-A-Grave family links shows me, that this Abigail Gale may not be the SAME as the Common Ancestor.

There was only one hint for the 2nd Abigail Gale for a North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 book, which has a write up for this second family. It would appear that the We’re Related APP picked up on THIS Abigail Gale, as the Birth and Death Years agree with the APP.

The Birth Dates are different, the married names were different, but the Death Date and the Birth Names are the same. Colonial Massachusetts is also common between the two.

For this example: my current thinking is that there are TWO Abigail Gales. (1682 – 1769) and (1698 – 1769)

We’re Related APP Project–25 Nov 2016 Update

November 25, 2016

I am taking a few minutes to report on the progress of this project. I continue to see how this APP belongs in my Genealogy Tool Box.


You can see, over time, how much information is available from this APP. With plenty of Hints to work on.

The Collaboration part of this project has also begun. One person completed what he knows of his family, and I have made some adjustments to my instructions based on his feedback.

The breakdown of Categories are:


What that image didn’t capture was 3 Presidents and one Presidents wife. So far, my one known President hasn’t shown up yet.

Two observations, that others may have noticed. Its “helpful” to have Colonial Ancestors in your online tree. That tree may be Public or Private but many of mine go back into the 1600’s.

The second observation has to do with the Common Ancestor being a Female. I have made note of this, to look into further. It appears that some of these female ancestors may have married twice. That is what I looks like, but I am closely looking into this.

As a bonus, I have seen several of these Common Ancestors are connected to several of my “new” cousins.

This is still a work in progress, but I will be able to take a number of my known Ancestors back several more generations, when this project is completed. But, this is giving me a tool to help be get there.

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