Google+ Communities and Genealogy (part 2)

May 3, 2013

Continuing with my discussion about Google+ Communities, specifically with the Dear MYRTLE Genealogy Community.

Google+ Communities and Genealogy (part 1)

These discussions are about the earlier experience with the Google+ Community feature. Dear MYRTLE has moved to this platform as a way, or Genealogy Tool, to share our genealogy experience.

2 weeks into this new feature is talked about here.

Google+ Communities – What we know after 2 weeks (part 4) HOA

The real focus on this 4th of the series was about Private Communities. In our case, this may not apply. However, What IF you wanted to set up a Family Community or a Local Society Community? You may want to consider this feature.

The 5th in these series is talking about how and where to post on Google+

Google+ Communities – What we know after 4 weeks (pt. 5) 2013 a look ahead

This discussion talks about should WE post to Google+ OR only Post into the Community. The panel talked about how they post. The best example should “I” just post to Google+ or not to post to Google+ but only into the Community. What I got out of it, is that the reason the panel uses the Google+ to gain people into their community.

As I have followed DearMYRTLE, I see her on FaceBook and her Blog, and posting to the Community. That is my observation any way. In both the Google+ stream and from FaceBook, it’s getting the “word out there” that something is going on in the community.

So, for this 5th video, it is talking about Posting Strategy for a community. They did touch on personal communities or “for business” communities.

It was restated that the Community is Topic Focused. There was a work around, where there was a posting into one community, and sharing that post in the community into another community. I know that I have joined a couple of Genealogy Communities to learn what’s going on, but hadn’t thought about sharing some of those posts into the DearMYRTLE community. It does continue the thought about collaboration between communities.

On to part 6.

GooTubePlus in Google+ Communities. GooTube stands for Google and YouTube.

The point of this next video is talking about the transition into the Community feature.

Google Plus Communities – What we know after 2 Months (pt. 6)

It gets to the point from Part 5, that is, double posting, in Google+, to my own stream or circles or to the community.

This reminded me to look at what DearMYRTLE has posted into the **Guidelines category. She reminded us:

Let’s play nice in the sandbox. We respect your right to your religious and political beliefs, but this is no place for off-topic postings or Hangouts in this genealogy-oriented community. This is not a request.

For organization’s sake, first click on the category that matches your subject. Then type your post, and tap the “Share” button.  The post will be seen in “All Posts” and in the appropriate category.

This 6th video opens a new topic, for individuals, for placing or bookmarking posts within a personal community, that is private and you can create categories to put those bookmarks. It will be interesting to see how that will work.

Moving through another month, part 7 is at the 3rd month of communities. At this point in time, DearMYRTLE had moved from the Webinar platform to the Hangout On Air platform. So this next video talks about the communities are developing.

Google+ Communities – What we know after 3 Months (part 7)

I may be wrong, but what I have seen is more dialog. That started in the Hangouts On Air, both within the Joiners AND the Viewers. How DearMYRTLE is engaging the community during the Hangouts On Air. Now we are seeing discussions within the community on the topic of Genealogy. From what I have seen, is that the community is growing and sharing of our experience.

This 7th edition talked more about things to consider when setting up a community, starting with the Title, and the About section for the community. How that information helps the Google search engine and the Google+ search engine “ranks” the results. Apparently these are two different sets of results based on where you search from. The activity within the community (Posts, Plus One, Shares) help raise the community for someone searching in Google Plus.

One of the final comments from the Panel, was to create and participate in a private community.

The 8th edition is here, on Permission Only Communities.

Google+ Communities – What we know after 4 Months (part 8)

This video talked about a Public Community, where someone has to be invited into the community. Chef Dennis had a vision for the community and focus for his topic. He controls who joins and even excludes who can join the community. As DearMYRTLE has done, Chef Dennis has clear guidelines as to who can and who can’t join the community. What was interesting, to me, is that he looks at the Profile of the person who is requesting to join the community. It’s like what I talked about on my blog post.

Technical Tuesday–A thought about your Google+ Tag Line

That talked about how I choose who to add to one of my circles. So, for Chef Dennis, he bases that Tag line and Profile information as to who joins or doesn’t join his community.

This should be the end of this series of blog posts on Google+ Communities. It’s been a great journey watch DearMYRTLE and working with DearMRYTLE in the establishment of the DearMYRTLE Genealogy Community.

Google+ Communities and Genealogy (part 1)

May 2, 2013

As some of you know, I have been involved with the DearMYTLE Genealogy Community on Google+. So, I thought I would take a moment or two to see if I can describe what a Google+ community is and why it may be important to those of use to do family history research. I have already benefitted, through sharing, from this relatively new “platform” to talk about genealogy.

I will share the experience with the DearMYRTLE Genealogy Community, but I hope that those reading this blog post, that it is really another Tool, for our Genealogy Tool kit. Another online platform to use while doing our research. For example, the Hang Out feature to have a family gathering, on line, around the world, or just next door.

I started by watching a Google Hangout On Air with this title:

Google+ Communities – What You Need to Know (part 1)

What I got out of that YouTube presentation was that a community can be Topic Based. Certainly, that is what Dear MYRTLE has done for us. But what does that mean. If you have been using Google+, it is a stream of postings by other Google+ users. That users are those who YOU have decided to follow. That is your Stream of messages on Google+. If you follow 100 people, you will see what they post.

The “next” level of posting is to a Circle. For example, I have a Genealogy Circle. Those folks that I ‘follow’, who are also interested in genealogy of family history research, I put into that circle. IF I have a message that is on the topic of genealogy, I will select that circle to post that message to. I have a Family Circle. The Family circle may not be interested in what I have to say about Genealogy. Another circle I have is on Headstones. The other two circles may not be interested in my headstone pictures. So, Circles are “private”. Only those in the circle that I post to, will see those messages. I can post to more than one circle, so I control who will see what I post.

So what is different from a Circle (mine) verses a Community. You can join the community, if you find it. DearMYRTLE has a closed group, BUT, it can be found and you can ask to JOIN the Community. Two people monitor those requests to join, and you will be approved.

One major difference is that Communities can be Searched and they are Indexed. Family Historians know what indexed and “can be searched” means. Each post, Each COMMENT, AND Each time you click that +1 ICON, helps get the Community to appear higher in the results using the Google Search Engine. A circle won’t do that.

We have used Twitter as a genealogy tool. Don’t give up on that tool, as it is another useful genealogy tool in our tool box. But, unlike Twitter, Google+ communities are focused, and by replying to a comment or post, you can “continue the conversation”. I find it difficult just watching twitter, to pick up on a Hashtag. If I focus on ONE hashtag, like “ #genealogy ” I would miss out on the “ #genchat “. But a message in a community, such as the DearMYRTLE Genealogy Community won’t get lost. Oh, did I mention it’s longer then 140 characters.

You will see, on the DearMYRTLE Genealogy Community, some categories on the left side. That focuses the discussion on specific topics, like Hang Outs. So, it’s topic based, within the community.

The referred to YouTube video mentioned Not Competition with other genealogy communities, which are being created, but another place for cooperation, or as I have hear DearMYTLE say Collaboration.

Part 2 YouTube

Google+ Communities – What We Know After 18 Hours (part 2)

In the community, WE talk about what WE want to read about. Google+ would be everything, based on your circles or folks you follow, while the DearMYRTLE community is only talking about Genealogy.

This second video talks a little more about how the information within the Community is “controlled”. Also, ALL posts, even published within a Category, the Community will see those posts. If you, the reader, wants to just look at Hang Outs, just look at that Category.

The hint about “all of the emails” from the community, they suggest that you turn the Notifications (Bell ICON on the Left) OFF. As a moderator, I keep that ON because I want to see want to see the posts and comments. You may not want to see all of them. OR as we suggested in one of our early Hangouts On Air, Turn the Notifications OFF during the Hangout, the turn it back ON following the Hangout.

Part 3 (a week into Communities)

Google+ Communities – What we know after 1 week (part 3)

One of the comments about growing the of Communities in Google+, was encouraging conversation within the community.


End of Part 1

Day One–Searching in Lancashire, England

April 26, 2013

I posted Where do I Start? and thought I would follow up on that post.

Actually, the report really helped. I stayed focused on that list and did an online search at I worked on the first 16 people on my list (males), and actually found 4 records in an Anglican Parish. So, my early guesses were close.

Of interest, one of the results gave me conflicting information. Below is the image in question.


Anglican Parish Registers (Lancashire, England), Lancashire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials (1573-1812), Burial Record for Edward Worthington, buried 08 May 1629, image 259, accessed 25 Apr 2013; digital images,

The conflict is that there are two people, in the Pedigree Chart, Edward Worthington, and the chart said that they died “1629”. So, which Edward Worthington is this record for?

I am guessing that solely looking at Church Records may present miss leading information. Without any indication of relationships or other information, may lead us to incorrect conclusions.

What I did was to enter the SAME record to both people, with a citation, but marked a To Do List task, to resolve this conflict.  I also send an email to the project coordinator for additional help, as they have information that I do not have.

Bottom line here, the GenDective report has been very helpful.

Where do I Start?

April 24, 2013

Continuing my research for this “ancient” family line, where should I start to look?

The first record that I found was a marriage record in an Anglican Parish in Manchester, Lancashire, England. The Record group covered 1573-1812. Perhaps there are other records that I might find there, since the collection was for Baptism, Marriage, and Burial’s from that parish.

Back to GenDective­™. In GenDective Reporter, there is a listing for “Which reports help with my research efforts?” That sounds like what I am looking for.



Clicking on the “+” sign, I see a report that might be helpful. Families who lived in state.

I selected ALL “Degree of family kinship”, Country is England, and State, territory or region, I selected Lancashire and clicked on Generate Report.



This generated a report of 30 people who had an event in Lancashire. Looking at the report, which included Dates, I might find any one or all of them in that area of England.


So far, with that first “hint” there have been not helpful hints. Because I have so few dates, the hints are not “my person”. So back to AND, as they have Church Records from that area in that time frame. But, at least I can focus on this group of people (30).

Where should I start looking ?

April 21, 2013

Last week, I posted about a Marriage Record from 1663 that I found.

Marriage Record for George Worthington and Elizabeth Sandiford 11 Jun 1663

The file that I am working on, is a collection of Pedigree Charts from a surname project. What I am trying to do, is work from these “undocumented” pedigrees and begin to document them. The Pedigree Charts have been documented by the Compilers, Examiners, and those that are proving them, but I don’t have that information.

Now that I have my first “hit” (or hint), I now want to start researching. But, I want to focus the research by location to see what I can find. All of these records are in the UK. I don’t live in the UK, don’t know much about the areas in the UK, so this is new territory for me.

I have used a program called GenDective® by Rumblesoft.


I have used this program for some analysis, so I created a GEDCOM file, from my genealogy database management software program, imported it into the GenDetective® Analyzer so that the GenDetective Reporter program can be run.

I am trying to determine WHERE I should start looking, or what location will give me the greater number of results, as the records I should find will be church records. Once I know the location, then I can return to my genealogy program and start the search.

Running the GenDetective Reporter, I selected What Place names need to be standardized. My genealogy software does that for me already, so I select the Event Occurrences by Location Report.


I know it’s difficult to read, but the two boxes on the Right are two locations in England, each with 8 events there. Lathom, Lancashire, England, and Manchester Lancashire, England. So, those will be the first places that I will search. Actually, the people who had an event in those two location.

Here is what I see in my genealogy database, as a report. The names and Events that took place in Lathom, Lancashire, England


I can also see it on the map that the program provides.


Now I know who to look for and where. The report from GenDetective helped identify that information for me.

NE Genea-Bloggers gathering at NERGC

April 20, 2013

Made a quick trip to the New England Regional Genealogy Conference  yesterday, to catch up from with some genealogy friends, learn something, and to participate in a Special Interest Group gathering to talk about blogging. Too many Genea-Bloggers for me to list who all was there, because I know that I would miss someone.

A few pictures of the “group” as we started to gather. The room wasn’t a good place for pictures of the whole group, but here are a couple pictures with some comments thrown in.


For example, there are a couple of experienced Bloggers shown above, a “newbee” (at the time of this picture was not YET a blogger), others with websites, and the conversation began.


Our hostess, Heather Wilkinson Rojo of led the group discussion. Each participant talked a little about their blog experience or website experience while others shared their interest in blogging.


The group shared how they got started, talked about the various blogging “platforms”, what to look for when starting to blog, how to handle comments, very much a Community Collaboration on the topic of Blogging, especially in genealogy blogging. Clearly a wide range of experience.


I wouldn’t be surprised if there aren’t a new blog or two, even now only a couple of hours after this gathering, that are either started or about to start in our community.

What a great evening !!!


Thanks to ALL who shared their experience.

Technical Tuesday–Calendars

April 17, 2013

Although I am retired, I need A Calendar, especially with all of the Online activities that are available for doing family research.

I had been using Microsoft’s Outlook for years. Worked very well, but that would mean I had to be at MY computer. I tried many other applications including Google Calendar. It was OK, but had difficulty sharing it with my wife. My goal was a working calendar for me, and the ability to share it with my wife.

This blog post will attempt to share how I manage my Calendar (singular).

Let me start by saying that I have MY calendar. Thinks that I have scheduled. For example, today, I have a Genealogy Club that I find myself leading, and we are meeting for the first time.  We are meeting at an Adult living center. I have 3 webinars on the calendar today, and a Genealogy Conference starts today.

One of my sources for “things to do” is the GeneaWebinars calendar. It is a single repository (cool genealogical term) for members of the Genealogy Community to post their activities. I watch that calendar for new items, changes in an event, but I also “Follow” or “Join this site”. The Home Tab on that website talks about how to use it. But “following” that blog, I receive an email that something has been added, changed, or deleted. BUT I am not going to attend ALL of those events. There are so many great activities and I have so little time. Guess we know how that goes.

Going to my Google Calendar, I can link the GeneaWebinar calendar to MY Google Calendar as a choice of calendars that I have.

Lets start with a message that Pat Richley-Erickson posted on the Dear MYRTLE Genealogy Community recently (actually a few minutes ago). It’s a Google+ Hangout on Air, and it’s Wednesday, 17 April 2013 at 6pm Eastern (New York time). Now Dear MYRLE provides us a lot of great detail about this event. Question: Am I going to attend. This one is easy, OF COURSE I will attend.



OK, how do I get this event to my calendar, that is the events that I am going to participate in or want on MY calendar.

I head over to MY Google Calendar and SELECT the GeneaWebinar calendar.

There is My Calendar and Other Calendars. I have NOT selected my calendar and have only selected the GeneaWebinar calendar. It’s color is Green and any event on that calendar will show.



You will notice that at 2:00PM, there are two GeneaWebinar events, but there is the new event that Dear MYRTLE added that I saw on her community page. So, she cross posted information about her event, once on her community of Google+ and added it to the GeneaWebinar Calendar (Thank you Dear MYRTLE)

Not marked, but there is a light green event, which means that it has already pasted. Mondays with Myrt was held yesterday.

Selecting this new event, the details of the event are appear.


Be mindful of the Time and time zone.

I want this event to appear on MY Google calendar. You will notice a “copy to my calendar” link. Clicking on that link will cause THAT event to appear on my calendar.


A page appears with the information from the GeneaWebinar page, like the date and time, that I entered “Hangout On Air” as a reminder for ME where this calendar event is going to take place AND that I have added it to MY calendar. This is a COPY of what was on the GeneaWebinar calendar.

If this was an event, from another calendar, where there as an In Person Meeting, or that I had to travel, the Address, for example, could be added in the “Where” field. That was MY entry on MY calendar.

If the “platform” of the event was a Webinar, the Go To Webinar platform has a registration page to sign up for the webinar. The Go To Webinar platform has built in Reminders  that will send an email prior to the Webinar. I liked the reminders.

How to get those same reminders for this Google+ Hangout on Air? Scroll down to the bottom of what is on the copy of the event and I can ADD the reminders that I want Google to send to me, and HOW I want to be reminded.


The Event Color, is the color of MY Google Calendar. I have set up so that I receive an Email 2 hours prior to the event, and Pop-up window on my computer 30 minutes in advance, and an SMS (Smart Phone Text Message) 10 minutes in advance. These settings are of my choosing, and I can have more reminders IF I need them. Like an Email 2 weeks prior to an event, IF I am traveling and want to be reminded that I need to get ready for the event.

The default setting from some events, from Google Calendar, is 10 minutes for all 3 ways to be reminded. Email, Cell Phone, Pop-up windows are gentle reminders that something is coming up very soon. That’s OK for some events, especially online events, to get me in front of the computer.

I save that new event to My Calendar. When I saved that event, I was returned to My Calendar where I selected MY Calendar (in RED), so now I am showing the GeneaWebinar calendar and MY calendar.


Oops, looks like I have a conflict just above the hi-lighted event. I have a choice to make at 2PM. Two webinar. I did that on purpose because I am interested in Both but may not make up my mind until the last moment.

I can now go back and de-select the GeneaWebinar calendar, just by clicking (with my mouse) on GeneaWebinars on the left.


This is a view of of my calendar. Clicking on any of them, will give me details of what I entered or what came from the the “other” calendar.

This is great for me. I can see what I have scheduled for the day.

(Bonus for this posting)

During one of Dear MYRTLE’s presentations, she and her daughter of Not Your Mothers Genealogy, introduced, to me, an application called Cozi. 

It is also a calendaring program (Oh no, another program). I didn’t use it too much because it was “another calendar” to maintain. It is great for sharing information with the family, but more work. HOWEVER, this application has the ability to link my Google Calendar to my Cozi Calendar.



In the Settings menu, on the Left, there is a Calendar URL that can be pasted from my Google Calendar, under Share Calendar, Calendar Details, Private Address, iCal, has the link for the Calendar URL.

After saving that calendar, now my Cozi calendar has my Google Calendar entries.

About 10 minutes after I added this Dear MYRTLE Genealogy Community, to GeneaWebinar calendar, to My Calendar (copy), this new event is on my Cozi Calendar, with all of the reminder coming from my settings in Google Calendar.


Sounds like a lot of work, but I maintain ONE calendar, I can share that ONE calendar, AND I have all of the reminders that I want of an upcoming event.

Isn’t technology great?


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