DearMYRTLE’s DocuChallenge

November 2, 2014
DocuChallenge: Phillips, William D

We were presented with an image from Fold3.com to do the following:

NOW FOR THE CHALLENGE
Let’s answer these questions:

  1. What is this document?
  2. How would you describe the physical appearance of this document?
  3. What does this document say about Ol’ Myrt’s ancestor?
  4. What other people are mentioned in this document?
  5. What information items do you find most reliable in this document?
  6. What information items do you find less reliable in this document?
  7. What value is this document without a citation indicating provenance?
  8. Can you craft a citation for this document?
  9. What would you do with this digital document?
  10. What other record groups should Ol’ Myrt consider after analyzing this document?

This is a Civil War Pension card. We are looking at a digital image of that card.

I transcribed it:

Dead
Name of Soldier: Phillips, William H
Service: Last Rank P, Co K, 19 Reg, Ind Inf
Term of Service: Enlisted [ no date ] Discharged [ no date ]
Date of Filing 1880 June 7
Class: Invalid, Application number 376,996, Certificate No 243,464

Date of Filing 1921 Mar 12
Widow 1,171,114, 8-1-20, 907389

Additional Service A 17 V.R.C.
Died Fed 21 1921, Knoxville, Iowa

“Civil War Pensions; Organization Index to Pension Files of Veterans Who Served Between 1861 and 1900″, digital image, The National Archives (http://www.fold3.com : accessed 31 October 2014); entry for William H Phillips (Co K, 19 Reg, Ind Inf); citing: Civil War Pensions, Pension applications for service in the US Army between 1861 and 1900, grouped according to the units in which the veterans served; NARA T289. no roll number cited.

The first thing I noticed was William H vs William D. Wonder if +DearMYRTLE gave that to us as a hint.

The Soldier, William H Phillips had died:

What this told me was the soldier’s name was William H Phillips and that he was married and left a widow. He was a Private, in Company K, of the 19th Regiment, Indiana Infantry. He Died 1/21/1921 in Knoxville, Iowa, and his widow filed for the pension 3/12/1921.

So far, the information appears to be OK, but….

One thing that caught my eye was the Term of Service, there we no dates. So, I searched to see if there were any Civil War Service Records for William H Phillips that fit the information I had so far.

There was no indication in the Civil War Service Index – Union – Indiana for him, but there were 7 entries, none this William H. The question so far is, Did he serve and when did he serve? Not sure what the A 17 V.R.C. means, yet.

I have been looking at Civil War Records on Ancestry.com, and where I would normally go from what I have so far, would see IF I can find HER pension file. And I found her pension at: U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 for William H Phillips. The numbers matched exactly, as I have seen before. It’s a different card, but should have the same numbers and certificate number. It did. The widow’s name is Louisa Phillips. She filed for the pension in Iowa, where he had died.

That A 17 V.R.C. is also on this pension record. Two documents with the same information.

My next stop was to see IF I could find any more information on the 19th Indiana Infantry Regiment, as I had a hint something was coming. So I went to Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_Indiana_Infantry_Regiment

Having been on a brief Civil War research trip with our spouses, I took this picture at Gettysburg in May.

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The Iron Brigade. I knew there had to be a connection. BUT, I took my next step to see what else I could find out about the 19th.

Before I take my next step in research, I need to mention that the Iron Brigade was involved, in Gettysburg, on Culp’s Hill on 3 July. I also had a Confederate soldier, Ridgely Howard, in that SAME battle and he was wounded in the thigh at Culps Hill. Not in the same part of the battle, DearMYRTLE’s soldier was at the other end of that battle, as there are monuments placed where the units were fighting. Pieces of David Ridgely Howard’s story is in a PBS film on Gettysburg.

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This is the monument for the 1st Maryland.

Back to my research I found this website:

http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/unininf2.htm#19th

The kicker for this research, for this DocuChallenge is in the LAST Line on the 19th’s service information:

Weldon R. R. August 18-21”

In William Henry Phillips Find-A-Grave memorial, Find A Greave Memorial #58768920, DearMYRTLE published the details of his pension files, that he served through 1864. So, Was HE, William Henry Phillips, at Weldron R.R. in that battle?

MY Ridgely Howard was wounded for the 2nd time at THAT battle. This time, “wounded in action – upper portion of right thigh, amputated.

David Ridgely Howard lived until 23 December 1927 and is buried in Green Mount Cemetery, Baltimore, Maryland.

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Follow Up on the Favor

May 21, 2012

This is a follow up to Returning a Favor

I was curious about information in the 1850 Census Record for Lewis Terry. Who was Ansel Terry (52)? I could guess that he was the father of Lewis, but I can’t work on guessing, need proof.

I found him in the 1880 Census as the father of the head of household, David N Terry. Could this be a brother of Lewis?

One hint for me, so far, is that this household didn’t move around much. At least from 1850 to 1800, so far. So, I took a leap to my next research space, Find-A-Grave, and did a search for Anesl (not a common first name, for me at least).

Ansel Terry, born Aug 10, 1797, died Jan 3, 1884 would work. The 1850 and 1880 birth dates are within reason. I found him buried at the McClary Cemetery, Coffey, Daviess County, Missouri. I found that Ansel was married to Elizabeth Foster Terry (1798-1845). That helped confirm, for me, as to Why Ansel was with Lewis in 1850 and Widowed as seen in the 1880 census.

Listed on this website, were Children Enos A Terry (1819 – 1897), Thomas F Terry (1821 – 1845) and David Nelson Terry (1825 – 1908). This is the household that Ansel was in, in the 1880 Census. The birth dates between the first two sons, has enough room for our Lewis to fit in, so we are still, in my mind, within reasonable parameters. There is also room for other children for Ansel and Elizabeth.

Looking at Elizabeth Foster Terry, another Child is Added, Robert Jackson Terry (1832 – 1897). That might be the SAME Robert J Terry we saw in the 43rd MIssouri. What I didn’t see on his memorial, was mention of he being in the Civil War.

Notes from Elizabeth’s memorial “Elizabeth Foster(May 25,1798-Feb.22,1845), married Ansel Terry on Aug.30,1815 in Hamilton Co.,OH. They had 6 children; some in Hamilton Co.,OH, some in Franklin”

This confirms that Ansel was born in Ohio, which the Census has indicated. And 6 Children. I have Enos, Thomas, David, Robert Jackson, and Lewis L Terry. Missing one.

Returning to the Cemetery Listing, there was Sgt Lewis L Terry and his wife Cynthia.

The notes for Sgt Lewis L Terry say “Note: Co. F, 43rd Missouri Infantry. Information courtesy: McClary Cemetery, Washington Twp., Daviess Co., Missouri, By S. Terry, 2006” and “Lewis 1st married Cynthia Hall on Dec.1,1836 in Dacatur Co.,IN. Married 2nd to America J.Kelly in 1885.” and “Lewis Louis Terry b,October 02, 1818 Hamilton,

Butler Co; Ohio [S/O Ansel Terry & Elizabeth Foster.]d.January 03, 1884 Davies Co, Missouri”

This helps confirm his two marriages and puts America J Terry into the picture as his 2nd wife. The dates are consistent with previously posted information.

Looking at  Cynthia (yet another spelling) memorial page I found “Note: W/o Lewis L. Terry. Information courtesy: McClary Cemetery, Washington Twp., Daviess Co., Missouri, By S. Terry, 2009”. Oh, and Dear MYRTLE has posted a memorial on this page.

The above memorials were:

Created by: One from many
Record added: Feb 20, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24775886 for Cynthia Terry

Find A Grave Memorial# 24775897 for Sgt Lewis L Terry

Find A Grave Memorial# 24775921 for Ansel Terry

So Cuz, Dear MYRTLE, a few more bread crumbs to help put this family together. Dates, places, and some consistent information may help.


Returning a Favor

May 21, 2012

I was in a virtual meeting, last night, in 2nd Life, where cousin Dear MYRTLE was explained her dilemma in a couple of Civil War Records. She blogged about it here:

Why aren’t these Civil War pension index cards the same?

She is looking for “Lewis (Louis?) Terry, who served in Company F, 43rd Missouri Infantry.

Dear MYRTLE provided the images and citations for those images, and it was apparent that there was conflicting information. The first, obvious one, was the Spouse Name.

From her blog post:

Lewis L. Terry, soldier, America J. Terry, widow. SOURCE: National Archives and Records Administration. Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. T288, 546 rolls. The image is found here at Ancestry.com.

Further down she posted:

Louis L. Terry pension card index. National Archives and Records Administration. Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. T288, 546 rolls. The image is found here at Ancestry.com. From the NARA website we find the following description “The pension applications to which this index applies relate chiefly to Army, Navy, and Marine Corps service performed between 1861 and 1916. Most of the records relate to Civil War service; some relate to earlier service by Civil War veterans; others relate to service in the Spanish-American War, the Philippine Insurrection, the Boxer Rebellion, and the Regular Establishment.”

Lewis L Terry (America J Terry, widow) and Louis L Terry.

And a 3rd entry

Louis L. Terry, soldier, and unnamed widow, but when compared to the first example above, note the same date of soldier’s filing June 30, 1887. The application and certificate numbers for the widow are the same as in the first example. SOURCE: National Archives and Records Administration. Organization Index to Pension Files of Veterans Who Served Between 1861 and 1900. This is the card group microfilmed by the Veterans Administration in the 1940s, arranged by state, then unit in which the service was rendered (cavalry, artillery or infantry) and then alpha by veteran’s name, archived by NARA in record group 15, microfilm T289, not T288 as listed in the first two examples. Actual image is found here at Fold3.

Louis L Terry, and an Unnamed widow.

Two Record Groups (T288 and T289). Louis L, Lewis L, unnamed spouse, and America J, a ‘new name’ for Myrt.

During the discussion in 2nd Life, we chatted a bit about how to resolve which Lewis / Louis is which, and who was the spouse. OR were there more than one Lewis/Louis Terry, servicing the the 43rd Missouri. That appeared to be the common piece of information relating to this “mystery”. But it also reinforced the notion that Don’t stop searching when you find ONE record. Look for more documentation.

Here note on this first Blog post was:

As you can see, DearREADERS, I cannot jump to conclusions based on an index card. I’ll need to review each file for other identifying information that may indicate a match to my Lewis L. Terry before making the determination that he did serve in this unit during the Civil War.

Having spent a little time searching for my Great-Grandfather, Samuel Worthington and his venture in the Civil War, I thought that I would use what I learned and apply it to this mystery.

The two pieces of information, as a starting point, was his Name and the 43rd Missouri. The Unit may shed some light about, and it might answer the question, were there two L. L. Terry’s in the 43rd.

I went to Ancestry.com and American Civil War Soldiers collection

This database is a compilation of military records (including state rosters, pension records, and regimental histories) of individual soldiers who served in the United States Civil War.

I entered L Terry and the keyword 43rd Missouri and that he was from Missouri.

The return of hints was 71 people with the surname of Terry. 23 were Confederate and 3 were not from Missouri. Reviewing the remaining names, the following names were in the 43rd Missouri, Company F.

  • David Terry, Enlisted as a Private
  • David Terry, Enlisted as a Private
  • Lewis Terry, Enlisted as a Sergeant
  • Robert Terry, Enlisted as a Sergeant

Name of Regiment: 43rd Infantry Regiment Missouri
Muster Date: 30 Jun 1865
Organization Date: 1 Sep 1864
Regiment Type: Infantry
Regiment State: Missouri

The American Civil War Regiment listing is here

There were 11 Enlisted killed or Mortally Wounded, 53 Died of Disease of Accident.

There is a list of Soldiers in this unit and a summary of the unit’s One Year history in the Civil War.

Regimental History
Forty-third Infantry
MISSOURI
(1-YEAR)

Forty-third Infantry. — Col., Chester Harding, Jr.; Lieut.-Col., John Pinger; Maj., B. K. Davis.

The regiment was mustered in on Sept. 22, 1864, and was on duty in the state during its entire term of service. Six companies were in the battle of Glasgow, Oct. 15, 1864, and in the spring of 1865 the whole regiment was assigned to the District of Central Missouri, where it was actively engaged in the warfare with guerrillas until it was mustered out at Benton barracks, St. Louis, June 30, 1865.

Source: The Union Army, vol. 4, p. 270

Battles Fought
Fought on 15 Oct 1864.
Fought on 21 Feb 1865.

In the list of soldiers, here is the list of Terry’s.

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So, what good is this. There isn’t too much detail linking this information back to Louis, Lewis. Also, this list does not include Lewis L Terry (the L) as the previous records show. But, what might the Census have to say. For me at least, the question about Enlisting as a Private vs a Sergeant may have some meaning here.

The 1850 Census shows a Lewis Terry, aged 32, Born in Ohio, in District 25, Daviess County, Missouri. Wife listed is “Lynthia”, Children Elizabeth, Ruth, Levisia, John, Isabel, a Robert J, and an elder Ansel Terry (52).

Lynthia, may actually be Cynthia. But the son Robert J, may be a clue here.

Looking at ages, from what is in this census, would have Lewis at 47 and Robert at 32. hmmm … not ‘boys’, more experienced, Private vs Sergeant, may be a hint here.

Looking at the Search Screen, on the right side is information that might be helpful to review:

myrt-terry_hints

Links that may be other clues;

Looking at the 1860 Census, we have Lewis W, Cynthia, Levenia, John, Isabella, Louisa, Martha, and Terry. Ages and Names appear to be consistent. Robert J. is gone.

To the 1870 Census, Lewis W is now Lewis L, Cynthia is not Sintha, Isabel, Louisa, Martha, Nancy, and Jacob are in the household. Still in Daviess County, Missouri, and Lewis was still born about 1818 in Ohio (that has been consistent).

There is a 1876 State Census Record, for a Louis S Terry, but it barely readable.

Let’s push our luck for the 1880 Federal Census; Lewis L Terry is there, still born about 1818 in Ohio. Key to note that he is a Widower, with one daughter, Nannie. Looking at the ages, Nannie might be Nancy.

Going down the list of hint’s the Civil War Pension Index; General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934, lead me back to the image that Dear MYRTL had, which showed America J Terry. The clue here, maybe the date of the filing July 21, 1890. This might indicate that Lewis L Terry, re-married between 1880 and 1890, and died in that same time period.

Next on the hint list was the U.S. Civil War Soldiers, 1861-1865, listing. What is interesting about this listing, is that his Rank IN was Private, and the Rank Out was Sergeant.

More conflicting, or inconsistent reporting of information provided from venders to Ancestry.com.

For me, this, once again, is that you must continue to look for different records and put the pieces together until I have a complete picture. But, it also requires that the conflicting information be reviewed. I don’t toss the conflicting information, but remember it to prove or disprove the data we find.

As Dear MYRTLE suggested, she is going to have to pull the files. We are reminded, or at Least I am, that NOT EVERYTHING is Online.

Now to look at what Fold3.com might have to offer this mystery. But that will be another Blog post.


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